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Newcomer Normal user Level: 4 Posts: 1/3 EXP: 184 Next: 95 Since: 11-13-20 Last post: 1258 days ago Last view: 1258 days ago |
First I'd like to thank the creator for this awesome emulator (or sort of it) and the effort he puts on constantly improving it. Today I started playing SS and activated the shinies code for cyndaquil and I didnt intend to use it anymore after that, but to my surprise, after both deleting the code and unticking "enable cheats", im still getting all shinies. How can i disable it for good? I tried using the search toolbar but didnt see anything related. |
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 Big fire melon Administrator Level: 44 
Posts: 219/593 EXP: 587802 Next: 23483 Since: 10-12-19 Last post: 4 days ago Last view: 22 hours ago |
it can be possible than the cheat modified some value in memory once which isn't modified by the game itself anymore. So you need to reset the emulation while having the cheat disabled. ____________________ Take me to your heart / never let me go! "clearly you need to mow more lawns and buy a better pc" - Hydr8gon |
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Newcomer Normal user Level: 4 Posts: 2/3 EXP: 184 Next: 95 Since: 11-13-20 Last post: 1258 days ago Last view: 1258 days ago |
Posted by Generic aka RSDuck I already tried several resets with the code deleted and the enable cheats unticked. Thats what i first thought, that the AR code had permanently modified some bits of the ROM. |
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Big fire melon Administrator Level: 44
Posts: 220/593 EXP: 587802 Next: 23483 Since: 10-12-19 Last post: 4 days ago Last view: 22 hours ago |
hm, the rom can't be modified by a cheat code, so it's probably some data which is saved in the savefile. Maybe there's a cheat code to reverse this? ____________________ Take me to your heart / never let me go! "clearly you need to mow more lawns and buy a better pc" - Hydr8gon |
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Newcomer Normal user Level: 4 Posts: 3/3 EXP: 184 Next: 95 Since: 11-13-20 Last post: 1258 days ago Last view: 1258 days ago |
I doubt it, ive never seen one which reverses the get shinies code in all the years ive been emulating pokemon. Afterall, why is it needed? If you dont want shinies you just dont use the get shinies code. After resetting pc only shinies is still going on. I have started new game and now its fine, so all good, only a couple of hours lost. Thanks for trying to help anyways mate  . |
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Newcomer Normal user Level: 3 Posts: 1/2 EXP: 98 Next: 30 Since: 12-18-20 Last post: 1209 days ago Last view: 1202 days ago |
Hi, I discovered this emulator only today and it's much better than anything I've ever tried on PC.
However, I am experiencing the same issue on Pokemon Platinum. I activated the shiny pokemons cheat as well as a cheat to get wild Ralts, and then deactivated them. However now I only keep finding shiny Ralts. It would be nice to get this problem fixed, or at least a way to get around for the moment. I recognize that this may be a game-specific issue, just wanted to let the developers know that it probably happens on every Pokémon game. Maybe this is not the right place to signal it though. Thanks for the emulator, it's awesome! |
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Big fire melon Administrator Level: 44
Posts: 265/593 EXP: 587802 Next: 23483 Since: 10-12-19 Last post: 4 days ago Last view: 22 hours ago |
which cheat exactly did you use? And does the same thing happen if you use the cheat on a real DS or other emulators? ____________________ Take me to your heart / never let me go! "clearly you need to mow more lawns and buy a better pc" - Hydr8gon |
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Big fire melon magical melon girl Level: 56 
Posts: 643/887 EXP: 1343237 Next: 54939 Since: 03-28-17 From: France Last post: 20 hours ago Last view: 3 sec. ago |
from a technical standpoint:
AR cheats are applied every time the ARM7 vblank handler is invoked (that is, mostly per-frame). disabling a cheat in melonDS stops the AR engine from applying that cheat. it does not revert the side-effects from previous applications of the cheat, depending on how the game works those might stick around until the game is reset. disabling cheats entirely is more or less the same except that it disables the AR engine entirely, but any memory that was altered by cheats will remain altered until the game modifies it again or is reset. of course, there might be bugs in that implementation, but I tested it and it worked fine, so I doubt there's any problem with melonDS itself. ____________________ Kuribo64 |
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Newcomer Normal user Level: 3 Posts: 2/2 EXP: 98 Next: 30 Since: 12-18-20 Last post: 1209 days ago Last view: 1202 days ago |
Hi, this is the shiny Pokémon cheat that I used:
Loading a savestate where the cheat was once activated, results in encountering only shinies even after disabling cheats entirely. I tried to reset the game without loading a savestate and in this way you find pokemons normally. If I load the game the way it was intended to be loaded by a Nintendo DS (through saves inside the game and not melonDS savestates), the cheat disables correctly. I guess it has something to do with savestates. I cannot test this behavior on a normal DS because I don't have an AR at hand, but I remember that I used this cheat on Pokemon Pearl on a real DS (not Pokemon platinum) and when I disabled the cheat, it disabled correctly. Maybe it could be something related to the way savestates work? |
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Member Jamie clone #18273 Level: 8 Posts: 9/13 EXP: 1637 Next: 550 Since: 12-22-20 From: TERF territory aka the UK Last post: 1209 days ago Last view: 1135 days ago |
Posted by OP A savestate is literally a snapshot of whatever's held in RAM at the time, and if the code is one of those which doesn't disable immediately upon unchecking it in-game, it will obviously do as such in a savestate regardless of whether the AR engine is enabled or not. That's why when loading the game from a save file it's working fine, the DS would never have loaded the AR code, pretty much. All depends on what the code does and how it applies it, I suppose (arisotura basically explained it in better ways) ____________________ melons aren't leather seats, or CD players, but they're DS emulators - apparently |
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